I think what this man means by his deep philosophical comments is that he enjoys shagging you.
No more, no less.
Time has come (for both of you) to put up or shut up.
i went to my first kh 3 sundays ago and was quite suprised that they we'ren't pushy.
in fact, no one even spoke except the man in front who let me borrow his songbook.
i am a christian and always have been to church.
I think what this man means by his deep philosophical comments is that he enjoys shagging you.
No more, no less.
Time has come (for both of you) to put up or shut up.
long time lurker here(never was baptized).
i am from madison wi looking for others i may know.
parents studied with the witnesses for a long time but found the truth about the truth.
Excuse me, whereabouts in WI is Mt Horeb?
the early group around russell studied the bible by reading it, discussing it and drawing conclusions.
when russell reached firm conclusions on various matters he began to be a bit down on this method of bible study for his followers.
instead the brethren should stick to reading the studies in the scriptures or wt studies (of questions with cited scriptures) rather than reading the bible alone.
Thanks, parakeet.
I guessed that that would be what would happen, because my friends knew I was researching on-line, that English was not their first language, and because (thanks to this site) I knew what was in their mags as soon as they did.
warning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
" I liked the one where a poor boy donated his chickens to the World Wide Work."
I must apologise. When I first read this, it came over as the 'World Wide Wok'.
I had a brief vision of the world's biggest sweet 'n' sour chicken.
warning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to minimise anybody's suffering.
If there was a real case of disablement, I'd be happy to pay for a wheelchair or whatever.
But if WTBTS is using these sort of stories fraudulently (and god knows, there are enough real stories of tragedy in the world already) then they need to be exposed.
And I am no bible scholar or academic, but one of the few skills I have is exposing liars/bullies/extortioners.
the early group around russell studied the bible by reading it, discussing it and drawing conclusions.
when russell reached firm conclusions on various matters he began to be a bit down on this method of bible study for his followers.
instead the brethren should stick to reading the studies in the scriptures or wt studies (of questions with cited scriptures) rather than reading the bible alone.
Can I ask (yet another) naieve question, please.
I have avoided a 'bible study' with my JW neighbours, and it's not going to happen now.
But if it HAD happened, suppose they came to my apartment, and as they went through their book/text, and I said 'Hang on a moment' while I checked the reference, or the verse, or against previous JW publications on-line - in other words if I'd wanted an ON-LINE study aid - would that have been allowed?
warning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
Well, here's a serious offer.
I'm not, never have been, etc. a JW. Nothing to lose, no family to upset.
If someone can give me a fairly recent example of a poor brother Unfortunate used in a story to which I could reasonably have access (e.g. in a Watchtower or Awake) - and preferably a fairly tragic thing like he lost his children, had his balls shot off by enemy soldiers but still went door-to-door - I would be happy as an innocent outsider to write to WTBTS. I could explain how touched I was by the story, and while not being a JW, wanted to offer practical/financial support to the individual, and ask WTBTS to put me in touch with him, perhaps via the congregation.
If they replied, I would be happy to help some poor guy in the developing world.
Either way, I'd be happy to post copies of the correspondence here.
Is this worth a try?
warning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
Thanks again for the analysis.
Bearing in mind how often stories about 'Emmanuel' and others crop up (poor brother in Africa had to go through swamps, had both his legs bitten off by crocodiles but still crawled to the meeting; brother in S america had his house burning down, left his wife to deal with dead kids etc while he went to the study) has anyone EVER written to WTBTS and said 'I was touched by the story of poor brother Unfortunate, can you put me in touch with him so I can offer love and support? (at least buy the poor bastard a wheelchair).
What would happen if someone did? Are ALL of these stories just pure invention?
how many of you had panic attacks when you were a jw and when leaving?
i know of many jw women and a few men who suffered badly with panic attacks.
since recently having another spate of panic attacks i suddenly realised that i had been having them all my life.
Gill
As an outsider, I can only comment from general life experience. But I would say that - especially with the issues you've been dealing with recently - some sort of reaction is only to be expected. As they say 'a normal reaction to abnormal circumstances'.
How are things now, BTW?
Gary B
Jeez, you talk some sense! More power to you.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/11/060611162437.7450zyd1.html.
two die as hardline islamists ban world cup.
jun 11 12:25 pm us/eastern.
I don't think he's against football - recent news reports from Iran suggest that there are moves afoot to allow women to attend stadia to watch matches.
Isn't this a problem with all or most religions? They believe that they know the will and mind of their god and seek to impose it on others. IMHO, blind, arrogant and potentially dangerous prejudice.